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Post by l2dboos on Aug 24, 2013 9:57:42 GMT -6
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Post by Qwerty on Aug 24, 2013 10:02:45 GMT -6
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Post by Arsa on Aug 24, 2013 10:07:33 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 11:04:01 GMT -6
My point, Ahsoka, was that half of the clan is just as bad as these 'trolls', and I never (intentionally or otherwise) accused anyone of anything, as I've explained several times now. So you say we need more of these bad people because half the clan is alike them... Congratulations you're very smart but I'd say we should concentrate on increasing the numbers of good people in the clan. Also you intentionally accused Echo and half the clan with him for breaking the rules when you don't even have solid proof of that and even if you'd have you should stay silent because in that half of the clan you're among the first!
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Post by ??h? on Aug 24, 2013 11:23:01 GMT -6
Echo, I've seen you killother which is technically abuse (not saying I'm perfect or even close), I've seen you gotopoint the ship spawn on trip during an ffa and then ship lame, etc. Not really bad abuse but still abuse. WOW LOL U, guess why I killother OMFG. I never killother somebody for no reason neither would I do something like "HEY FUCK U, U KILLED ME *KILLOTHER" And to the thing with gotopoint... ARE U FUCKING SERIOUS? ?? 1. I m an admin, I can fucking use it as much as I want. 2. When talking of abuse, I assume we talk of using admin powers AGAINST clients 3. I used gotopoint to reach a place faster than normal, SO WHAT? 4. If people like these powers, join the clan, climb up the ranks and fucking get it or SHUT THE FUCK UP, because the whole purpose of a clan was not only to combine people but also to have your own fucking server, be admins, have the controle of YOUR FUCKING SERVER with special powers and not to obey TROLLS or clients at all (and this has nothing to do with being power hungry or some shit like that). 5. THIS is a fucking game, not real life or politics, On this server, even if we respect clients, main priority is, was, has been and will ALWAYS BE BOSS
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 13:43:02 GMT -6
Why u guys taking so srsly these ranks and they commands i am Mortal but i can have in server without admin commands like dueling idk sounds fun for me
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Post by Sam on Aug 24, 2013 18:41:53 GMT -6
i don't either trial , nor build , so everytime i use it , its abuse ? Did you read what I said? It's only abuse when it's used during an event to get the better of someone else. If you're just messing around on the server, then it's no issue. It only becomes 'abuse' if you're taking part in an FFA, and using it to get away from people, or bypass choke points on the map. So you say we need more of these bad people because half the clan is alike them... Congratulations you're very smart but I'd say we should concentrate on increasing the numbers of good people in the clan. Hmm, no, it was more like, "You guys are just as bad as them, so why deny them, when in actual fact they're not that bad at all." It's all relative. You think they're awful, yet you're never in-game to see that those who you think are perfect are actually just as bad. In which case, either everyone is bad, or everyone is ok. Also you intentionally accused Echo and half the clan with him for breaking the rules when you don't even have solid proof of that and even if you'd have you should stay silent because in that half of the clan you're among the first! As I recall, I simply stated that a large amount of the clan abuses, and this is widely recognised and acknowledged. Acknowledged by Council, by Clan Members, by Clients- but nobody bothers to address it. So don't tell me I need evidence because the evidence is right in front of you if you ever got in-game. As for your last sentence- Fuck it. I don't care if I'm "among the first". I apologise for any abusive behaviour I have exerted on clients, although lately, I've really tried hard not to use admin commands at all, because it's wrong if you're using it to get an advantage over everyone else. Sure, I've abused before, and sure, it's wrong. I've also been punnished before, for my abuse. I've been demoted. I've been double-demoted. I've been stripped of admin. And I took that punnishment, and I learned from it, and I moved on. Nobody is perfect, but the least I think we can all do is to try and respect everyone and play fairly. ARE U FUCKING SERIOUS? ?? 1. I m an admin, I can fucking use it as much as I want. 2. When talking of abuse, I assume we talk of using admin powers AGAINST clients 3. I used gotopoint to reach a place faster than normal, SO WHAT? 4. If people like these powers, join the clan, climb up the ranks and fucking get it or SHUT THE FUCK UP, because the whole purpose of a clan was not only to combine people but also to have your own fucking server, be admins, have the controle of YOUR FUCKING SERVER with special powers and not to obey TROLLS or clients at all (and this has nothing to do with being power hungry or some shit like that). 5. THIS is a fucking game, not real life or politics, On this server, even if we respect clients, main priority is, was, has been and will ALWAYS BE BOSS 1. You are an admin. It is your duty to uphold the values of the clan. It is your job to respect clients, and to not use your commands to get an advantage over others during events. 2. When talking of abuse, I am meaning the ability to gain an advantage over a client or a member, during event where everyone is participating against each other to win. For example, an FFA. 3. You used gotopoint to reach a place faster than normal during an event where everyone is competing, and you are using an unfair advantage to defeat your oppopnents. 4. People just want to play the game, they shouldn't have to join a clan, but they also shouldn't have to compete with those who have an unfair advantage. 5. Actually, I always thought that the overall objective of this game was to have fun, and Clients can't do that when there's someone cheating the system... Seroiusly Echo, you using gotopoint to get to the ships and then using a ship to kill 5 people at once, is no different to you spawning, running out with god profession, all powerups enabled, invisibility on, god mode on, basically ever OP command being used and killing five people who are unable to stop you. It's the same thing. Hopefully you would consider that example as abuse (the god prof, killing people example). As such, you should then look at the first example, and consider it as abuse too. In using gotopoint, on trip, you are teleporting from an area where no one can kill you, to an area where no one can kill you. You then get into a vehicle where almost no one can kill you during the time it takes you to take off, you then fly around and back down, towards the people who have little chance of avoiding your ship, and you proceed to hit them in a way that they can't actually block or deflect. So you're almost invincible and unstoppable. That seems almost exactly the same to me as using commands to be unstoppable.
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Post by Joker² on Aug 24, 2013 22:43:58 GMT -6
i don't either trial , nor build , so everytime i use it , its abuse ? Who said you can't be messing around on your own, or trying to get somewhere faster? I used to use it to get to a place faster..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 1:51:23 GMT -6
I said you're among the first! Your answer: 'Fuck it' Also you admitted that you abused... so you have no right to lecture Echo about how to behave... and if Echo really misbehaved he will get his punishment from other council members. Echo's right it's not politics.. if they can't show respect why should we, also what's the point of admin powers if you can't use them? Anyways you're wasting your time with your posts because you tried to convice the council of this in the past as well and it was denied for a reason. You can continue making your useless points but you'll get nowhere..
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Post by Sam on Aug 25, 2013 4:34:36 GMT -6
I said you're among the first! Your answer: 'Fuck it' Indeed, that was my answer. Why? Because regardless of whether or not I have abused in the past, I will admit that I have, I will admit that it is wrong, I apologise for it, and I'm trying to move on and make this a better place by helping others to come to that realisation. Also you admitted that you abused... so you have no right to lecture Echo about how to behave... Actually, I have every right to. Why? Because for that exact reason- I'm guilty of it too, but I have accepted this fact and apologised. In fact, I read a story a few days ago of a man in prison for life, I forget what he did, I think he was a repeat murder or something, ex-gang member etc, and he is now in the jail lecturing the prisoners and helping to get them on the right track, encouraging them not to repeat offend. Why? Because he realises what he did was wrong. and if Echo really misbehaved he will get his punishment from other council members. Echo's right it's not politics.. Oh how wrong you are. See quite often, members misbehave, break rules etc, but depending on whether or not you are LIKED usually provides the basis for whether or not you get punnished. As well as the fact that, you know, nobody gets punnished and that's an issue that I'm also trying to address here. Nobody bar a small few. if they can't show respect why should we, also what's the point of admin powers if you can't use them? Because we have to step up and be the better person. It's in our rules as well, all Admins should show respect to all Clients, regardless of how they treat us in return. It's the old concept of 'do unto others as you would have done unto you'. Furthermore, I never said we can't use them, I just said we shouldn't use them to gain an unfair advantage during situations like events, and we shouldn't use them to unfairly punnish. Anyways you're wasting your time with your posts because you tried to convice the council of this in the past as well and it was denied for a reason. You can continue making your useless points but you'll get nowhere.. Tried to convince the Council of what? That abuse is bad? That Echo is bad? That the punnishments system is bad? I'm not sure what you're referring to here... Oh and umm, seeing as how we just had a rule change with regards to warnings before punnishments, showing respect to all (Esp. Admins to Clients) et cetera, regardless of how much of a role I had to play in that, maybe lots, maybe none, it would appear that things are changing. Slowly. But slow change is still change.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 5:13:04 GMT -6
wall of text You forgot who you should be loyal to... things are changing but not because of you. You treat this all as politics and that's the problem.. they(clients) don't take you seriously they might pretend to but they still laugh and when they get what they want they're gonna use it to make their own rules. Also I can understand why they kicked you from council and it's pretty obvious that this is the reason why you attack Echo. I have no desire to continue this..
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Post by ??h? on Aug 25, 2013 5:45:44 GMT -6
I have no desire to continue this.. thats why I quit replying lol, hes going to reply with some other bullshit then and doesnt realize that trolls always cry. For example, if gotopoint and killother was removed, then they would call u an abuser for using /goto to a member. RK is missing the point that it is a clan, not politics and WE are the owners, actually the rule to "repsect clients equally" was made BY US, its not like we have to, but we have this rule. Its the same as when u live at ur house and u let people like RK and trolls in and they tell u what u're allowed to do in ur house and listen to them. U are respected but u are not the fucking owners. ffs
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Post by Sam on Aug 25, 2013 7:14:36 GMT -6
Forgot who I should be loyal too? No, more like, I choose to fight for the rights of those mistreated and unable to fight for themselves. In this case, the likes of odys, Mr.K and whoever else. I will not be just another admin, supporting the falsified stories of people in the wrong, and keeping corrupt leaders in power. I won't support that. Sure you can claim this isn't politics but when it comes down to it, it kinda is. We elect faction leaders (heads of state) that sit on council (parliament) bringing concerns of members (citizens) to be addressed by the elected clan leaders (president and vice president/ prime minister and vice prime minister, etc.). People complain, people campaign, there's rules, a pathetic justice system, etc. Sounds pretty much like politics. Moreover I'm not attacking echo, and this is certainly not because I was dismissed from council. I've been against this whole 'abuse of trolls' business for a long time now and I've argued with echo over it on more than one occasion. Indeed @dgabesz97 and ??h?, we made the rules. Therefore, even if no one else does, we should follow them. How can you be so blind to not see this? Me set the rules therefore we should uphold them, make am example of ourselves, and be the better person.
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Post by l2dboos on Dec 28, 2013 20:55:51 GMT -6
O h, how I agree so strongly here. Seriously, how long is this going on!? For the love of God, this clan needs members and why they hell are we denying people because they are 'Trolls'!? Half of the so called 'trolls' are infinitely more intelligent than half of this clan. I mean it wasn't long ago that Rhyno was labelled a troll, and now look, someone gave him a chance, and it seems he's actually a pretty decent guy. So what the hell. This needs to stop. The mindless denial of harmless applicants needs to be stopped. The only reason someone should be instantly denied is if they are currently in the process of, or has very recently, directly attacked the server/forum and/or it's clients. And has suffered no retribution as of yet or any form of punishment. And I don't mean attacked with words. I mean like DDoS or some other sort of attack to restrict gameplay. Otherwise, you really do have no real reason to deny someone access to this thing we call a 'gaming community'. A community by definition is somewhere that accepts everyone except those who are directly against the community itself. Last I checked, trolls weren't directly against or attacking the server/forum that is a part of our community.
So for the love of god, stop denying people because you don't like them or think they're trolls. It's just pure bullshit.lol _
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Post by ??h? on Dec 29, 2013 6:26:18 GMT -6
YEA HE WAS SUCH A DECENT GUY, FUCKED UP THE WHOLE CLAN AND SHIT, LETS GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE, HE MIGHT HAVE CHANGED AGAIN?!
LOL and luvu, why are u reading these old ass posts here. Aint nobody got time for this.
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Post by Ðimitri on Dec 29, 2013 6:49:15 GMT -6
Oh man stop this dialog, or I use my Ysalamiri on you! I'll cut the links of the force with you.
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Post by ??h? on Dec 29, 2013 7:35:09 GMT -6
Oh man stop this dialog, or I use my Ysalamiri on you! I'll cut the links of the force with you.
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Post by Arsa on Jan 12, 2014 14:11:14 GMT -6
_ that guy was online same time as the normal sonic was , just a tip
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Post by JoeyCarbo on Jan 13, 2014 0:19:29 GMT -6
nah more like he came under Skyne*{Wrecking}*AD*BD name, he logged in and Sonic appeared out of nowhere on playerlist and Wrecking magically dissapeared. Console only shows 'Skyne*{Wrecking}*AD*BD killed himself'
-edit: forgot to add that both names had same skin - nihilius or another sh*t-tier custom
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Post by Burcol on Jan 13, 2014 4:51:18 GMT -6
Sonic had been removed, anyway.
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